ESPN FC’s Jan Aage Fjortoft joins Gab Marcotti and Julien Laurens to deep dive into Bayern Munich’s 0-1 loss to Werder Bremen and why Thomas Tuchel’s side is so far off the mark this season.
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Tuchel has gotten 44 points in 18 games, the only reason Bayern is not comfortably on top of the table is that Leverkusen is having one of the best seasons in the history of Bundesliga. Firing Tuchel because Leverkusen has been brilliant, is insane and unfair
不是已经崩溃30年了吗？
MOURINHO IS COMING
Tuchel has Bayern playing football that’s downright hard to watch. Bayern need a new coach asap. Sacking nags was the dumbest move by the then-Bayern board, who were rightfully sacked but the damage was already done.
For anyone defending Tuchel, either you don’t watch the horrible football Bayern play under Tuchel or we live in alternate realities. I live in the one where Tuchel has Bayern playing terrible football.
People seem to be ignoring one aspect: Bayern is not worse than they were in previous seasons. The only difference this time is that they found and oustanding opponent in Leverkusen.
Here's the actual stats to support that, I looked up the number of points Bayern accumulated in the Bundesliga after 17 matches played, for each of the previous 10 seasons:
23-24 = 41
22-23 = 36
21-22 = 43
20-21 = 39
19-20 = 33
18-19 = 36
17-18 = 41
16-17 = 42
15-16 = 46
14-15 = 45
13-14 = 47
So, as you can see, the lowest number is 33, the highest is 47, so their current 41 is right in the middle. Keep in mind that in all those previous 10 years (including the year where they accumulated only 33 points after 17 matches) Bayern WON the title, which means this year they are as well on a "title winning pace", but they are now unlucky to go against an unusually tough opponent – Leverkusen.
That being said .. I do hope Leverkusen wins the title. Mostly for the memes, I want to laugh at the Harry Kane "curse" 😄
Tuchel was never a good coach. he always find ways to fallout with players.
i always thought what they said about americans was only superstition
Tuchel seems to be a good tactician but a poor man-manager.
Bayern is Fc Hollywood
Every issue mentioned happened at Chelsea, but everyone ignored it. He alienated players, played out of position, only gets trophies when players are happy. He makes the dressing room unhappy and it shows. How did you miss Mount FC. You can tell if he favors a player if he calls them by their first name. Or does he support them missing goals.
Tuchel was never the right manager for Bayern. I supported him because everyone deserves a chance but let’s be honest we won the Bundesliga because of Musiala and BvB bottle it. Tuchel didn’t win the Bundesliga because we were dropping points on that game against Köln. Tuchel style n philosophy is boring and doesn’t match Bayern. Look at Chelsea when he managed it was a boring defensive football.
Jules is a clown man. He is friends to Tuchel.
Tuchel is overrated.
Tuchel is one of Bayern's worst manager in the last decade.
Where were all these excuses for Mourinho at Roma?
very pleasantly surprised at this great, informed soccer discussion. is this espn?? lol
Apart from not winning, Tuchels style is boring.The bremen match nearly put me to sleep
Thomas tuchel sack
Thomas tuchel sack
Hansi Flick
Love the way Jan puts over his points of view. One of the top football pundits.
I don't think a lot of people understand how good a season Bayern are actually having points and numbers wise. 2 defeats and 2 draws in 17 games.
Leverkusen are just having a record breaking season
Gab is Low-key Dan Thomas actually. when he has his own show.
Thank god Tuchel is finally getting criticism. He's so overprotected!
why they said nelgleman not good. in UCL he defeted barcelona and inter milan twice in group stage. inter milan reached final.
first half in bundeslliga was his contribution and there was no kane or lendowoski.
his defense was really strong.
Tuchel is the most overrated coach in the world. He got lucky to win UCL. Thank god Bayern took him. Papa Perez was ready to bring him. What a disaster that would be.
Controversial opinion? If the current Bayern was transplanted in the Prem, they'd be fighting for spots amongst ManU and Chelsea.
Who in their right mind would believe that Bayern would offer Kimmich in a deal for Mukiele? Check your sources lmao
Too many criticism to Bayern. They’re not doing THAT bad. It’s just that Leverkusen is doing extraordinarily well.
I've said it for over a year now. Tuchel is a not the right manager for this club. Sack him and find someone better!
Tuchel was claiming until two weeks before transfer end that Pavard was staying when they sent Stanisic to Neverkusen. Kimmich has been out of form since the Vax story.
Juliens is so shameless. He’s quick to run his mouth on other managers, now look at him making silly excuses for Tuchel. He’s been terrible at Bayern and he was terrible at the end at Chelsea.
Bayern are just not that good because they best players in tbe league are moving abroad instead of joining them. In the past Haland and others would have moved there which is not the case anymore
I have nothing against the guy but Tuchel looks like he's been having a panic attack since he got the job. He's freaking out all the time
ESPN have a short memory why Tuchel was fired from Chelsea. Boehly bought Cucurella, Koulibally, Aubamayang & so on at the request of Tuchel… they did not prioritize young players but listen to Tuchel. Tuchel got smashed by Arsenal in pre-season & he went on a psycho rant blaming Boehly, the players, everyone but him, he asked for more signings & said it's because he needs more players. He's doing the same thing at Bayern, continuation… he's targeting EPL players that are known to be washed like he bought Aubamayang & so on.
Tuchel should be Barca's coach. You're welcome for the most original take of the year.
SACK TUCHEL
The best way for Tuchel to fix bayern is to resign. He keeps playing people out of position and and slows down the team moving forward, minimizing the forward press. And all you have to do is look at his last transfer class at Chelsea when he was in charge and this one at Bayern, both of which he didn't have a sporting director making the decisions to realize his transfer choices are awful. At least Bayern didnt buy Cucurella.
He wanted a 100 million 30-year-old Striker and a 60 million 28 year old defensive midfielder. Ridiculous I know he wants a 33-year-old right back